Dianabol vs oxy (Anadrol)

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    • Zusammen mit Testo E 250mg e3d.
      Ziel ist es sauber aufzubauen, und nach dem absetzten der Oralen was zu halten.
      Wenn dabei auch noch Kraft rum kommt wäre das Optimal.

      Einfach vor und Nachteile und Anwendungsgebiete beider Roids wären gut im Internet steht so viel widersprüchliches, will einfach mal eure Meinung hören.
    • oxy ist ein wenig stärker was dann auch mehr nw mit sich bringt

      ich fahre beides sehr gerne grob gesagt für mich
      auf anadrol ein bisschen stärker als auf dianabol dafür mehr aufgeschwämmt
      und auf dianabol ein bisschen schwächer dafür praller in der optik
      (ernährung ist aber gleich....)
    • ich denke mal, jeder kennt den Artikel. Aber für die, die ihn noch nicht kennen:

      "The Great Oral Debate: Anadrol vs. Dianabol
      By Gavin Kane

      For many years, a
      great debate has raged over which oral is superior for mass gains, and two of
      them have stood the test of time; dianabol and
      anadrol. The debate has continued, arguing which of
      the two is superior, yet no conclusive evidence has proven one better than the
      other. People respond to each one differently, some swearing by dbol and some
      swearing by anadrol. Before we declare one the
      winner, I am going to go over a bit of history and chemical structure on both

      anadrol (oxymetholone) was first
      made available in the 1960’s by Syntex. It is very effective at increasing red
      blood cell production and was promising for treating severe cases of anemia.
      With the advent of newer and more advanced drugs such as Erythropoietin, which
      have less androgenic side effects, anadrol was
      discontinued. New studies in AIDS/HIV patients revealed anadrol was particularly effective at reducing wasting
      symptoms so it was re-released in the late 1990’s.

      Oxymetholone is a
      derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which in theory means it should not convert
      to estrogen. Since it does not aromatize but still causes gynecomastia in some
      users, there are other pathways by which it converts. After looking at studies
      on AIDS patients, I found that it may convert by actively activating the
      estrogen receptor, so this is a product that would need an anti-estrogen such as

      dianabol (methandrostenolone) was
      first made in 1956 by John Zieglar of Ciba fame. dianabol has been one of the most por oral steroids of all time, exploding in pority in the
      1970’s with bodybuilders and football players and expanding into all avenues of
      athletics during the 1980’s. It somewhat waned during the 1990’s with the steroid control act, but was hot again in the
      early 2000’s with reproduction in mass quantities by Mexican labs and
      underground labs.
      Methandrostenolone is a derivative of testosterone and
      hence will convert to estrogen. gynecomastia will be a concern for sure, in
      almost all users, whereas only less than 25% have problems with anadrol. Again water retention will be a problem, usually
      due to the estrogenic properties.

      Both products will have similar
      androgenic side effects, which include; acne, water retention, oily skin, male
      pattern baldness, and increased body hair growth. Both drugs are c17 alpha
      alkylated, therefore Liver protection will be necessary, especially when
      combining the two.

      So we come to the premise of this article, anadrol vs. dianabol. Why,
      the great debate over which product to take? They work on different pathways,
      have similar side effects you will have to combat, and both are Liver toxic. So
      why is there a debate over which is better and which one should you take? Well,
      as I stated earlier, different people have different responses to each product.
      Many people, including myself, find high doses of anadrol to be too much to handle in trade of the results
      you get. With this product, I have an extreme loss of appetite, massive water
      retention, and overall aches and pains and headaches.

      On the other hand,
      when I take dianabol, I get a general sense of
      well-being, good but not great size gains, and the ability to keep eating. It
      sounds like I should keep taking dianabol and drop
      the anadrol, right? Wrong. I get massive male
      pattern baldness from dianabol, which I do not
      experience from anadrol. I have an increase in
      blood pressure levels at doses that are high enough to match my gains from anadrol, and I have to shorten my cycles because of the
      massive dosages I take to get good gains. So in all, I get some side effects
      from each that I would like to avoid, while still retaining the great benefits
      that I can only get from each product.

      anadrol is well known for its ability to cause massive
      size and strength increases, and as we all know, a stronger muscle has to become
      a bigger muscle with enough calories to feed it. dianabol gives me large, quality muscle gains without as
      much water retention as anadrol. So what is the
      compromise? Do I take one during one cycle and then the other product during my
      next cycle?

      The answer is no to both. There is no need to short change
      yourself gains in either department when you can have your Cake and eat it too.
      I am not alone in my assessments of both products. Most guys have similar issues
      of massive water retention, headaches and loss of appetite with anadrol, and MPB and fewer gains with dianabol comparatively. So, the best thing we can do is
      decrease our dosages of both products to cut down on side-effects and take them
      at the same time to increase the benefits.

      My recommendation is to take
      both products in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. dianabol has been found to work much better for quality
      gains when taken in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. High doses
      have severe side effects in some users, a loss of all gains with cessation of
      the product because of the short cycle (4-6 weeks) and most of the
      aforementioned side-effects.

      Your dosages will be cycle history
      dependent but when I was at the peak of my career, I was taking cycles of 200mg
      dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or 250-300mg anadrol per 6 week cycle. In later cycles when I decided
      to combine the two products together, I was able to drop my dianabol use to 50mg per day, and my anadrol use to 100mg per day and because of the
      synergistic effect of the two products combined, the effect was similar to high
      doses of each but with none of the sides. There is something very synergistic
      when taking these two products together with just a simple cycle of testosterone
      and deca-durabolin.

      I would run my anadrol
      cycles for 8 weeks at that dose and my dianabol
      cycles for 10 weeks at that low dose with no Liver toxic effects as proven by my
      quarterly blood tests. I did not have to take liver protectants, but I recommend them for
      most users. I no longer had to watch my blood pressure, my water retention was
      minimal compared to earlier cycles, and I was able to continue eating massive
      amounts of food because I did not experience appetite loss from a massive dose
      of anadrol.

      I highly recommend on your next
      bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and deca, add in the
      anadrol and dianabol
      mix, and some Nolvadex. You will be able to control your water retention, Liver
      toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will
      vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of
      time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is
      un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking
      each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take
      either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways.
      Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and
      deca and dbol are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch
      yourself just blow up."
    • lehaomna schrieb:

      und auf deutsch kurz zusammengefasst? warum geht es da?
      ganz kurz zusammen gefasst, empfiehlt er beides in niedrigerer dosierung zu kombinieren und etwas länger zu fahren. Dadurch weniger nws als einzeln und höher dosiert bei kürzerer Anwendung, ausserdem mehr Qualität beim aufbau. Empfehlung in verbindung mit ner basis test / deca kur.
      Ich mag Einhörner
    • als kur würde ich zu d-bol greifen, wenn du nicht sehr zu Wassereinlagerungen neigst würde ich oxys mal 2 Wochen in einer harten Diät einsetzen um die Flatness auszugleichen. Wird auch oft 2 Wochen vor dem Wettkampf eingesetzt.

      Wenn du aber aufgehst wie ein Hefekloss ist wenn nötig Halos die bessere Wahl für ordentliche Härte.